Popular tourist spots in Japan saw many visitors, both domestic and international, during the spring holidays due to the easing of various COVID-related regulations. While people in tourist industries welcomed the rebound, others are concerned about traffic congestion, littering and other related problems. Over-tourism is a worldwide issue, but what can we do to make travel more sustainable? NHK crews visited destinations in Kyoto and Okinawa to unearth some ideas. Guest: Nakai Jiro (Instructor, Bunkyo University)